Lloyds (HBOS) Gambled and Lost – Next Centre Point London

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11 October 2010: Trust me I’m a banker
By Mark Daly BBC Scotland Investigations Correspondent (Full story: http://www.bbc.co.uk)

Two years ago this week, Scotland’s once-proud banking history was ripped to shreds.

Facing total ruin, Royal Bank of Scotland was rescued by the government. Halifax Bank of Scotland had to be sold off to Lloyds, which in turn had to be bailed out by the taxpayer.

In 2009, RBS paid £1.3bn in bonuses, while Lloyds paid a reported £200m. Both were in the red at the time

We wanted to know more. Remember, RBS is 83% owned by the taxpayer, Lloyds 41% – so it could be argued that we’re entitled to know what they’re up to.

“Bankers are paid much more than executives in any other walk of business life. The idea that you have to pay these people stratospheric sums of money…underwritten by the taxpayer is offensive.” – Economist Will Hutton

“Just remember one thing, the City is full of greedy, ruthless, clever people and they will do what they can to line their pockets with no regard of the impact it has on society.” – Former trader and best selling author of “Cityboy” Geraint Anderson

Mr Tate, who was the highest earning Lloyds director last year with £1.8m, said: “There are a whole lot of people, myself included, who would love to get the kind of return on their investment that the taxpayer has made into this bank. They’ve made an investment that is making money. If you could come up with me, with an investment in the infrastructure which would have returned more for the taxpayers, I’m all ears.”

(What a Banker!)

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Tuesday 12 October 2010: HBOS loses millions on Vegas casino
(Full Story: www.guardian.co.uk)

Value of state-owned Lloyds’ overseas portfolio questioned after Penn National Gaming paid $230m for $860m debt

Penn National Gaming paid $230.5m for around $860m owed to HBOS, which included $700m the bank loaned to M Resort Photograph: Alise O’Brien

Lloyds Banking Group, the partially state-owned lender, has lost more than $500m (£317m) on loans to M Resort Spa Casino in Las Vegas – the second massive financial hit the bank has taken in America in as many months.

News of the deal has started attracting attention to the value of Lloyds’s overseas portfolio, much of which it acquired during the unpopular takeover of HBOS is 2008. Market watchers had previously attributed most of the woe associated with that acquisition to lending within HBOS’s UK corporate division, headed by Peter Cummings.

Penn National Gaming, a US gambling group, paid $230.5m for about $860m owed to HBOS International, which included $700m the bank loaned to M Resort plus another $160m loan that HBOS had acquired from MGM Resorts at an undisclosed price.

The debt sale comes two months after it emerged that HBOS International was set to lose “tens of millions of pounds” from dealings with another US client, Sea Island, the exclusive Georgia holiday retreat that filed for bankruptcy in August. In that case, court documents said Sea Island was unable to pay back close to $600m in debts owed to a consortium of banks that included HBOS, which were taken out to fund an ambitious expansion plan. The company said it planned to sell its coastal resorts to investment funds Oaktree Capital Management and Avenue Capital Group in a $197.5m.

The mounting US losses at HBOS are thought to have been incurred in the division previously run by Colin Matthew, a former HBOS board member whose responsibilities included the bank’s international business. He retired from the newly formed group in January 2009 with a pension entitlement of £416,000 a year, having been paid £652,000 in 2008 and £905,000 in 2007.

Lloyds declined to comment on individual impairments, although the group is thought to have already written down the value of the M Resort loans. Following the sale of HBOS to Lloyds, the former HBOS international and UK corporate businesses have all been rolled into a single Lloyds division, making it difficult to analyse where the major losses have been incurred.

One analyst said: “There is an idea that much of the financial crisis was down to a few bad apples. That is a simplification. It has lots to do with the organisational structure of banks. People are not incentivised to sit back and call the cycle.”

Lloyds has been winding down or selling HBOS-owned assets ever since acquiring Britain’s largest mortgage lender. The acquisition, which was encouraged by the UK government, helped Lloyds book losses of £6.3bn last year and pushed the shares, which closed yesterday at 72.65p, down to 19p.

Towering problems: Centre Point in London13th October 2010: High Court reprieve for Centre Point owner in survival battle with Lloyds banking
(Full Story: www.dailymail.co.uk)

The owner of the Centre Point tower in London won a reprieve in its battle for survival with Lloyds Banking Group. London’s High Court granted Targetfollow two weeks to secure investment, despite efforts by Lloyds to force it into administration over £700million of debt. The property developer cannot meet repayments on the loan or repay it in full because the value of its estate tumbled in the financial crisis.

But the group claims it has come up with a number of viable ways to restructure the debt – only to see them rejected by Lloyds.

The part-nationalised bank, 41per cent owned by the taxpayer after a multi-billion pound bailout by the state, wants to seize and sell the properties to recoup some of its money.

It has raised fears within the commercial property industry of a fire-sale of assets and double-dip in prices as banks seeking to unwind toxic loans handed out during the boom years from undermining the recovery.

Lloyds and Royal Bank of Scotland, which is 84 per cent owned by the state, are sitting on more than a third of the £250billion of outstanding UK property debt.

Many of the rotten loans at Lloyds were approved by Peter Cummings, the former corporate chief of Bank of Scotland, which Lloyds acquired by it bought HBOS in 2008.

‘Every week that passes is detrimental to the value of the assets,’ he said. Lloyds values Targetfollow’s estate at just £450million. The company claims it is worth nearer £680million.

The judge adjourned the case until October 25 at the earliest.

Naghshineh, an Iranian businessman, last month said: ‘The whole UK property industry is watching the situation very closely.

‘Any indication that [Lloyds] is starting a process of offloading [assets] at fire-sale prices will hit the property market very hard indeed, just as the recovery is underway.’

Friday 22 October 2010: Lloyds to go ahead with administration of Centre Point owner Targetfollow
(Full Story – http://uk.finance.yahoo.com)

Lloyds Banking Group is preparing to push ahead with administration proceedings against the owner of London landmark Centre Point despite the company claiming it has secured a £150m rescue cash investment.

Targetfollow, led by founder Ardeshir Naghshineh, issued a statement yesterday saying it had agreed terms with a “high-quality institutional consortium” to invest £150m in the business.

However, according to sources close to talks, Lloyds, which is owed more than £700m by Targetfollow, does not support the proposals and still plans to go ahead with a High Court hearing next week about whether the property company is placed into administration.

Targetfollow is breaching covenants on its debts and Lloyds must approve any capital injection, however it is understood that the bank believes the consortium’s terms are “not feasible” and would require it to take writedowns. The offer is a “long way” from what the bank considers appropriate, sources said. Lloyds declined to comment.

Targetfollow is due in court next week after it was granted two weeks to find a rescue investor earlier this month.

The consortium’s proposed £150m aid package would be used to acquire a portion of the debt from Lloyds and to provide working capital to Targetfollow. Mr Naghshineh said: “I believe that this consortium addresses the issues that the bank has raised with the company in the past 12 months, and will pave the way for the bank and the company to move on from what has been a very difficult time.”

Lloyds is managing about £30bn of problem property debt. The downturn in the sector led to the bank making damaging writedowns during the financial crisis. Latest accounts from Uberior Ventures, HBOS’s property joint venture arm, show its investments fell in value by £590m to £345m last year.

Eric Daniels the CEO of the Lloyds Banking Group doesn’t answer questions

Above the law? An article about CEO Eric Daniels and buying a bankrupt HBOS for more than the pound t was worth. Share the info, find out where and how they’re spending the country’s money and screwing the nation for it.


Author: Andrew Withers, January 14th, 2010

Don’t take this the wrong way, but I actually settled down to watch BBC Parliament yesterday. It was the Finance Select Committee asking questions of Eric Daniels the CEO of the Lloyds Banking Group. With a cup of black coffee and a sandwich, I listened with opened mouthed incredulity at what was being said.

Now Mr Daniels I have to say deserves his job. Not for his business acumen (that is in severe doubt) but for a sphinx like demeanour and general coolness under fire that was quite impressive.

However let’s get down to brass tacks. HBOS was a basket case when the Treasury approached Lloyds, which was in relatively fine fettle. It was clear from the questioning from a Labour MP, whose name currently escapes me, that the Government and Treasury had got to the stage were HBOS was getting to the point where a decision had to be made not to accept any further business. That would have precipitated another catastrophic run like Northern Rock.

Daniels was constantly pressed on whether he was told this information directly by the Treasury. He did not give a straight answer. He repeated a mantra that ‘he was made aware of the serious nature of the situation’. Being a simple sort of lad, this seemed to me to require an answer- yes or no. The Treasury appears not to have passed this information on and Daniels did not ask the question.

We appear to have two sides not applying the KISS principle (Keep It Simple Stupid), everybody being too busy being very clever and urbane whilst playing with other peoples’ money. The Treasury with ours, Daniels with Lloyds shareholders.

Then came the point of due diligence. Despite there being ‘a serious situation’, this is where HBOS was about to close is doors to new business (bankrupt) Daniels and his team did ‘ the appropriate amount’ of due diligence (prior legal briefing) this was admitted as being around 25%-50% of what was required in the ‘time allowed’. Lloyds then ‘valued’ the shares of HBOS at £2.38 a share and Daniels admitted in making this valuation to shareholders. He omitted though to mention the small fact that HBOS was being propped up with a Treasury loan of £25.4 bn.

The Banking Act 2009 made it possible for the Treasury and Bank of England to keep secret funding assistance in cases where financial stability may be put at risk – introduced in the wake of the run on Northern Rock.

As I said I am a very simple sort of person. It appears to me that HBOS was bust, and Lloyds could have picked up the whole caboodle for £1, as did ING buying Barings after Nick Leeson and the Directors had finished it off.

Who hood-winked who here? Daniels was adamant that nobody from the Treasury had hoodwinked him, and he had not hoodwinked his shareholders.

It is clear what Brown, Darling and the Treasury were getting out of this deal, a get out of jail free card that staved off the collapse of the Labour Government and possibly the end of the Labour Movement. However, what did Daniels hope to get out of this ? That is the question I would have asked. His reputation is tainted, and why he has not been removed by the shareholders is a mystery to me.

Unfortunately Daniels was saved by the inane twitterings of Sally Keeble MP, who asked a sixth form question about why small businesses cannot get loans from Lloyds. Watching her ask a question was like watching teenager who wanted to be taken seriously in a room full of adults.

She must have been asleep when it was being explained that her Government had induced a solvent bank, to take on a bankrupt bank, propped up by a £25.4bn of tax payers’ money at £2.38 a share and that deal had rendered Lloyds insolvent. With us as the taxpayer owning a large chunk of the combined group.

The only thing saved here was the Governments neck. The rest of us have been hood-winked, as have our children and grandchildren who have to pay to sort this out in higher taxes and reduced standard of living.

‘Too big to fail’ is a corrupt way to view ‘protected’ industry such as banking. HBOS should have been placed into administration and broken up into viable smaller regional banks. Each with a remit to indulge in retail and commercial finance. Brown and Darling sought to protect a collapsed monopoly to save face. Hence the chicanery of the Banking Act 2009

This Rotten Parliament has only months to run, it should be consigned to the dustbin of History.

Source: www.economicvoice.com